As part of their 30th anniversary celebrations Vince Clarke and Andy Bell talk about the important ‘first times’ that they have shared over the course of their career.

In this fourth extract from the interview they talk about the first time they argued, and the first time they thought that the whole Erasure thing might just work out…

The music used is ‘Ship of Fools’ from the Erasure album ‘The Innocents’.

With apologies for the erratic sound quality!